Salary and benefits payments to an incarcerated county elected official?

Salary and benefits payments to an incarcerated county elected official?

September 4, 2025

Smith County Commissioners Court
County Judge Neal Franklin
County Commissioner Christina Drewry, Precinct One
County Commissioner John Moore, Precinct Two
County Commissioner J. Scott Herod, Precinct Three
County Commissioner Ralph Caraway, Sr., Precinct Four

District Attorney Jacob Putman

Honorable Members of the Smith County Commissioners Court and Honorable DA Putman:

Grassroots America raises a simple – yet vitally important – legal matter regarding the continuation of salary and benefits payments to an incarcerated county elected official.

Article III, section 52(a) of the Texas Constitution prohibits the gratuitous payment of public funds for a private purpose. The determination of whether or not a public expenditure to an incarcerated county clerk fits the definition of “gratuitous” belongs to the Smith County Commissioners Court – as the elected governing body of Smith County, Texas. This is not a decision that can be unilaterally made by one member of the Commissioners Court, the County Judge, and/ or the Human Resources Director.

Grassroots America contends that continuing to pay a salary to an official who is not working due to incarceration strongly appears to violate this provision of the Texas Constitution.  We rely on the following:

The Texas Supreme Court has enumerated a three-part test by which to determine whether a grant of money or thing of value is prohibited as gratuitous. [Texas Mun. League Intergovernmental Risk Pool v. Texas Workers’ Comp. Comm’n]

This germane enumeration by the Texas Supreme Court is cited in Texas OAG Opinion No. KP-0007 dated March 19, 2015.  KP-0007 quotes that ruling: “(…an entity making a public expenditure must: (1) ensure the expenditure’s ‘predominant purpose is to accomplish a public purpose, not to benefit private parties; (2) retain public control over the funds to ensure that the public purpose is accomplished and to protect the public’s investment; and (3) ensure that the political subdivision receives a return benefit’). Relevant here, the three-part test requires that the expenditure must accomplish a public purpose and be reciprocated with return consideration or a clear public benefit. The determination of whether a particular expenditure satisfies the three-part test is for the political subdivision to make in the first instance, subject to judicial review for abuse of discretion.”

It is our understanding that the convicted Smith County Clerk chose jail time over probation, which removed all possibility of her being present to conduct the official statutory duties of the Office of Smith County Clerk; therefore, the public is clearly denied any “benefit” from her taxpayer-funded compensation.

The fact that her sentenced jail time is thirty days is immaterial – especially since Smith County taxpayers have assumed the cost of her prosecution, trial, and incarceration – in addition to the numerous opportunity costs.

On behalf of the Grassroots America Board of Directors, I assert that it is the legal and administrative duty of the Smith County Commissioners Court to place this matter on the Court’s agenda without delay.

I look forward to your responsive action.

Most sincerely,

JoAnn Fleming

Executive Director
Grassroots America – We the People Political Action Committee™

CC:  Tom Fabry, Chairman, Government Watchdog Committee
Board of Directors, Grassroots America – We the People PAC™
Thomas Wilson, Assistant District Attorney – Civil Division 

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Grassroots America: “Shockingly Unprofessional, Unacceptable, Embarrassing, and Disrespectful to Taxpayers”

Grassroots America: “Shockingly Unprofessional, Unacceptable, Embarrassing, and Disrespectful to Taxpayers”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE | July 30, 2025

Contacts:  
Tom Fabry, Board Member; Chair, Government Watchdog Committee, tcfabry@yahoo.com,  817-721-6701
JoAnn Fleming, Executive Director; self-term-limited Smith County Commissioner

Grassroots America declares the Smith County
Commissioners Court Budget Presentation —
“Shockingly unprofessional, unacceptable, embarrassing,
and disrespectful to Smith County taxpayers
and the officials who are trying hard to serve them.”

Executive Director JoAnn Fleming: “In 33 years, I have never witnessed such a shocking failure as this year’s budget process in Smith County.  County Judge Neal Franklin and the Commissioners have never had one public discussion to set the spending boundaries for the 2026 budget nor have they ever attempted to cast a unified vision for what this budget should achieve for the taxpayers.  It is inconceivable that the County does not have a complete and vetted preliminary budget at this late date!  Allegedly, taxpayers and the officials who are trying to serve them will not see the “real” budget and tax rates until mid-August, when it is virtually impossible to make changes.  The Commissioners should demand better.  The taxpayers, department heads, and county employees deserve better.  The buck stops with the elected Commissioners Court – not a hired budget officer.

“Road Bond projects approved by voters in 2019 and 2021 remain incomplete, over budget, and unresolved – months after we raised the issue in a February Commissioners Court meeting.  Although the county engineer provided two updates, the Commissioners Court has never publicly discussed or VOTED on how they intend to address the failure to make good on promises made to voters about improving their roads.  Even worse is the fact that the County desperately needs another independent review of county roads to determine budget allocations necessary to address road repairs and reconstructions. The last study was completed ten years ago! There is a huge cost for this failure – deteriorating roads and deteriorating public trust!”

Government Watchdog Chair Tom Fabry: “The enormous amount of goodwill built by former County Judge Nathaniel Moran (now US Congressman Moran) has been squandered. His legacy of transparency, due diligence, thoroughness, and purposeful community dialogue has been completely abandoned.  The higher standards of public integrity set by former County Judge Moran were incredibly valuable and should have continued.

“Repeatedly, Grassroots America’s Board has met with Judge Franklin to first privately discuss the Commissioners Court’s ongoing deficiencies in transparency, lack of due diligence, lack of cohesive planning, and shortcuts that put the best interest of taxpayers at great risk. Our private requests for course corrections have been ignored.  Our public requests for course corrections made in Commissioners Court meetings have been ignored.

“Our experienced and reasonable recommendations to Judge Franklin and the Commissioners Court to complete a rigorous review of county operations to discover opportunities to lower operating costs through increased efficiencies have been ignored.  Cost savings could free up tax dollars to redirect into areas where increased funding can be justified – without raising taxes. When running for office, Judge Franklin touted his experience with Lean Six Sigma methods learned as City of Tyler Fire Chief and promised he would use that expertise to benefit taxpayers. Unfortunately, this has never materialized.  Taxpayers deserve better and Grassroots America is determined to use every lawful means to seek accountability for Smith County taxpayers.” 

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Who’s Accountable?

Who’s Accountable?

March 14, 2025

After Smith County Commissioners Court Responds
to Our Questions on Road Bond Projects,
Reasonable, Unanswered Questions Remain!

On February 24, 2025, Grassroots America, called for a full public accounting of 2017 and 2021 Smith County Road Bond Projects, saying “Our audit revealed that the Smith County Road Plan promised to the taxpayers to be completed by 2026 is dramatically behind schedule and over budget. We call on the Smith County Commissioners Court to adopt a “business urgency” approach, work with the County Engineer to assemble all the facts and hold a public meeting in the very near future to inform citizens.”

On March 11, 2025, County Judge Neal Franklin’s Commissioners Court agenda included a non-action presentation from the County Auditor and County Engineer. Substantive questions remain unanswered.

  • When will the promised projects be completed?
  • What is the estimated cost of the remaining projects?
  • Will unsold bonds cover the cost, excess cash reserves be used, or is a tax increase planned? What are the anticipated budgetary and taxpayer impacts?
  • What percentage of the completed roads show signs of degradation? How much is due to poor drainage, poor workmanship, or damage caused by humans, animals, or weather?
  • Is a one-year contractor’s bond adequate to protect taxpayers from substandard work?
  • Why was the approximately $40 million in interest expense (a substantial cost to taxpayers) never acknowledged in the presentation?
  • When, how and who will plan and update the Smith County Transportation Infrastructure Plan?

Salary and benefits payments to an incarcerated county elected official?

Smith County Commissioners Court Responds

Contacts: Tom Fabry, Board Member, Local Watchdog Committee Chair | (817) 721-6701
JoAnn Fleming, Executive Director, former County Commissioner | (903) 360-2858

March 14, 2025

RE: 3.11.2025 SMITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT PRESENTATION ROAD BOND PROJECTS

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ABOUT SMITH COUNTY ROAD BOND PROJECTS

SMITH COUNTY JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS:

On February 24, 2025, Grassroots America, called for a full public accounting of Smith County Road Bond Projects, saying “After receiving numerous complaints from Smith County citizens, we conducted an audit of Smith County Road Bond project documents. Our audit revealed that the Smith County Road Plan promised to the taxpayers is dramatically behind schedule and over budget. We call on the Smith County Commissioners Court to adopt a “business urgency” approach, work with the County Engineer to assemble all the facts and hold a public meeting in the very near future to inform citizens.”

At Commissioners Court on March 11, 2025, the County Engineer and Auditor responded with a presentation of the 2017 and 2021 Road Bond financials and the infrastructure work done with those bond funds. The forty-five-page presentation provided a detailed overview of projects in “closed out” Phase1 and current status of Phase 2 road projects. Likewise, the financial overview was thorough. It is important to note that with one exception (#5 below), the summary GAWTP presented to the Court on February 24th detailed the same financial and completion data as was presented to the court on March 11th, confirming both budget overages and schedule slippage. Specifically:

  • The Phase 1 bond ($39.5 million) promised 376.5 miles of improved roads.

    • Only 204.5 miles were completed with bond funds
    • $3.5 Million of supplemental funding had to be applied to complete the additional 175.2 miles of basic maintenance.
  • The Phase 2 Bond ($45 million) promised 282.2 miles of improved roads.
    • Just 99.1 miles have been completed to date
    • Just 38.4 miles are contracted or planned to date
    • Nearly 145 additional miles have not yet been contracted.
    • Supplemental funding of $10 million has already been appropriated

What was missing from the March 11th presentation were several critical points GAWTP had previously requested to be discussed. The failure to address these has clouded the goal of total transparency on the financials and deliverables.

  1. The presentation stated a commitment to “complete the Smith County Road Bond Program.” Specific completion dates were not presented nor even discussed. The public has no benchmarks against which progress can be measured or against the FY26 completion, which was promised to the voters as the expected deliverable.
  2. The financial report documented the current funding balance and additional $20 million of bond sale authorizations. However, there was no estimate of the funding required to complete those improvements due to inflation or other factors. Transparency requires both notification and quantification of risk.
  3. Degradation has been reported on projects already completed. There was no discussion on this potentially significant financial risk to the taxpayers. There was no discussion regarding a need to perhaps extend the County’s current practice of a one-year contractor’s bond to two years. Again, this is an important topic that should have been discussed to protect taxpayer investments. Transparency requires a full discussion of project quality and what can be done to protect taxpayers.
  4. The response to the above three issues will define the taxpayer exposure to the potential Interest & Sinking Fund (I&S) tax rate increase in the FY 2026 budget. Transparency requires disclosure of I&S tax rate impact as soon as possible so that the Commissioners Court can get to work cutting costs in other areas of the County Budget to ease the burden on taxpayers.
  5. The Auditor reported that $2.2 million in Interest Income has been earned from the bond fund investments. This was new, and good, news. However, what was missing from the report was the approximately $40 million in interest expense, an incremental cost to the taxpayers. Full transparency requires both good and bad news.
  6. No official has been charged with updating the strategically important Transportation Infrastructure Plan. That is critically important to prevent future crises that may require additional bond propositions. Full transparency in problem solving requires both short- and long-term strategic plans. (Should the Commissioners Court utilize a community task force approach, we strongly recommend that contractors who intend to bid on future projects or who have financial interests in those bidding companies are disqualified from serving on the task force.)

Unfortunately, the Court’s agenda packet did not include the slide deck. No opportunity was thus available to analyze or reinforce these concerns under “public comments.” Public comments can often stimulate the Court’s deeper discussions or an exploration of new concerns.

Moreover, this was styled on the agenda as a “presentation” agenda item, not a “discuss, consider and take any necessary action” item. There will be no opportunity for public comments or formal debate for SIX MONTHS until the first semi-annual update. Road conditions affect virtually everyone, every day. Road conditions are important not just to residents and businesses but to those providing public services – schools, emergency services, and law enforcement.

The taxpaying citizens of Smith County want, need, and deserve better from the Smith County Commissioners Court. A schedule of pending road projects must indicate to taxpayers WHEN and HOW the specific roads they travel every day will be fixed. Transparency depends upon our remaining six questions being fully discussed in public and answered.

We strongly urge members of the Smith County Commissioners Court to require full transparency of themselves as the administrators of Smith County.

JoAnn Fleming

JoAnn Fleming, Executive Director
Acting President

Thomas Fabry

Thomas Fabry, Board Member
Chairman, Government Watchdog Committee

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Salary and benefits payments to an incarcerated county elected official?

Grassroots America Calls for Public Accounting of Smith County Road Bond Projects

Contacts: Tom Fabry, Board Member, Local Watchdog Committee Chair | (817) 721-6701
JoAnn Fleming, Executive Director, former County Commissioner | (903) 360-2858

February 25, 2025

Grassroots America Calls for Public Accounting
of Smith County Road Bond Projects

Tyler, Texas – Grassroots America, a statewide conservative public policy and citizen action group based in Smith County, Texas, today called for a full public accounting of Smith County Road Bond Projects, saying “After receiving numerous complaints from Smith County citizens, we conducted an audit of Smith County Road Bond project documents. Our audit revealed that the Smith County Road Plan promised to the taxpayers is dramatically behind schedule and over budget. There appear to be examples of “completed” road surfaces that differ from the improvements promised. Some completed projects are already showing signs of deterioration. The lack of financial and operational transparency in scheduling these road bond projects and reporting to taxpayers is just flat out unacceptable. Smith County taxpayers deserve better. We call on the Smith County Commissioners Court to adopt a “business urgency” approach, work with the County Engineer to assemble all the facts and hold a public meeting in the very near future to inform citizens.”

Background
In 2017, voters approved $39.6 Million in bonds to finance deteriorating and substandard
county road infrastructure – which by law – is a core responsibility of the Smith County
Commissioners Court. Even adjusting for the COVID shutdown, it appears that some of the
Phase I projects may not have been completed to the promised standards.

In 2021, a second bond for $45 Million was approved by voters as the second phase of road
infrastructure improvements.

Both bond proposals defined the specific projects to be completed within three years and provided the dates, road segments, and types of improvements that were scheduled.

In addition, the Smith County Commissioners Court appropriated another $13.5 Million of our tax dollars to supplement the borrowed bond funds.

To summarize, Smith County taxpayers will shell out more than $100 Million (when financing costs are added) to finally “fix” their roads. It is a reasonable expectation that in exchange for their tax dollars, Smith County citizens receive exactly what they were promised – nothing less!

Have Smith County taxpayers received their money’s worth?

Grassroots America conducted a review of both Phase 1 and Phase 2 Road Bond Project documents that were publicly available on the Smith County web site and other documents we received in response to a Public Information Act Request.

The analysis posed troubling findings in both the miles of roads repaired and the cost of repairs when compared to published approved project lists.

  • The Phase 1 Road Bond Program provided $39.5 million and proposed 376.5 miles of major reconstruction and widening, HMAC (Hot Mix Asphalt Concrete) overlay and reconstruction and miscellaneous improvements. According to the Phase 1 Bond summary, the county spent all $39.5 million to improve 204.5 miles of roadways, leaving a balance of 172 miles.
  • The Phase 2 Road Bond Program provided another $45.0 million to be spent in FY23, FY24 and FY25. Approved projects specified another 282.2 miles of road improvements. The county is now nearly half-way through the project calendar. The status report dated January 6, 2025, documents that just a third of the promised miles – 99.1 miles – have been completed. Only seventeen (17) additional miles are under contract and a mere seventeen (17) other miles are even planned to date!
  • To summarize, $98 million in financial commitments have improved 478.8 miles of the 658.7 promised miles of improvements (a shortfall of 179.9 miles). Just nineteen (19) months of the six-year road bond plan remains. Unfortunately, the County has not been transparent and forthcoming regarding either the performance shortfall or potential financial risk.

In addition to apparent slippage in the schedule and cost overruns, a non-scientific review of
the quality of improvements completed to date generate additional concerns. Segments of
completed roadways are already showing deterioration. In addition, improvements in other segments do not appear adequate to handle the volume and type of traffic experienced. Both issues indicate potential problems and financial exposure in the near future.

Grassroots America is publicly reporting our findings and concerns in response to the citizen
complaints we received. Our aim is to call attention to these increasingly serious issues, and to encourage a public accounting of the situation with a full discussion of solutions.

Much has changed since the project plans and bonds were approved. The County Engineer has been redirected to help oversee the courthouse construction project. Inflationary pressures have impacted both material and labor costs. Population and industrial growth have increased faster than projected. While these factors directly impact cost management, these factors in no way excuse the lack of disclosure to the taxpayers. Smith County received $44.5 million from the Biden Administration’s American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA). Reasonable questions arise regarding the use of this funding as well as the priorities the Smith County Commissioners Court placed on projects other than county roads.

Recommendations
Smith County citizens deserve and rightfully demand quality road infrastructure that provides safe and convenient transportation around the county. Today, Grassroots America petitions the Smith County Commissioners Court to:

  • Provide the current status of funded road improvements, assess known concerns, summarize bond fund balances, specify any needed supplemental financing, and report a revised timeline to completion.
  • Convene a public workshop that includes County Judge Neal Franklin, all four County Commissioners, the County Engineer, any required Road and Bridge staff, and the County Auditor to:
    • Vet and agree upon the County’s current ability to complete Phase 2 projects on time and on budget.
    • Prepare an updated project plan with dates and road segments through FY26.
    • Communicate the revised plans, dates to completion, and road standards to Smith County citizens the same way the road bond plan was “sold” to the voters – in community town hall meetings held around the county.
  • Assign responsibility to revise the county’s long-range Transportation Infrastructure Plan, which was instituted under former County Judge Nathaniel Moran. The multi-year plan should ensure that the County’s road infrastructure meets the scope, quality, and financing necessary to adequately address the projected needs of the taxpayers. The updated long-range plan must contain specific road construction, surface maintenance, and drainage standards to accommodate East Texas soils, weather conditions, and population density.
  • Utilize the road facts collected to set budget priorities for the next fiscal year and to construct a Business Plan for the Smith County Commissioners Court. This will set measurable performance expectations for the County’s governing body as well as demonstrate the Commissioners Court’s willingness to “lead by example.”

Finally, the dedicated Smith County Road and Bridge Engineer and his employees deserve the right tools, training, and consistent management from the Smith County Commissioners Court. We are deeply concerned that Mr. Davis’s attention has been redirected from his job – the Smith County Road and Bridge Department – to the courthouse construction project.

It is time to right this ship, which is badly “off course.” Smith County citizens need to see competence and caring from the Smith County Judge and Commissioners.

JoAnn Fleming

JoAnn Fleming, Executive Director
Acting President

Thomas Fabry

Thomas Fabry, Board Member
Chairman, Government Watchdog Committee

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Unaffordable | Do Something 

Unaffordable | Do Something 

2024 Local Gov’t Budget Recommendations | Right-size Gov’t 

Local gov’ts have started devising budgets for the upcoming fiscal year, which starts in the fall. Can you afford their plans?

Inflation:
Grocery Store, Gas Pump, Insurance, Utilities…

Does Your Local Gov’t Tighten Its Belt the Way You Must Do in Your Home and Business?
 Ask Them!

FACT:  We have more government than we can afford.

FACT:  When government grows, liberty shrinks.

Texans laboring under inflation desperately need local elected officials to “right-size” government.

To that end, Grassroots America has asked the Smith County Commissioners Court to take a new approach to their budget process. First, our Board of Directors discussed our request with Smith County Judge Neal Franklin in person. On May 20, we put it in writing to the entire Commissioners Court.

You can do the same! Why?

Citizens cannot afford local officials who blithely ignore bureaucratic bloat, spending gluttony, and who use the “we’ve always done it this way” excuse.

Citizens cannot afford elected officials whose personal preferences, personal conveniences, and sheer laziness overrides sensible practices, prudent spending, strategic planning, and the oath of office!

Grassroots America believes that it is a moral imperative that every tax dollar be stretched, every possible penny saved, and every service standard be raised.

As a self-term-limited county commissioner and a close observer of local governments of all kinds for the last 32 years, I can assure you that ample opportunity exists to reduce the operational cost of local governments – all of them!

Local government officials should examine fiscal management, efficiency, and utilization of resources in every area where tax dollars are spent.

Local government officials should determine the relationship between the amount of tax dollars spent and the outcomes achieved.

In an effort to encourage and educate our fellow Texans, we share with you the following reasonable, strong recommendations that can be adapted to any taxing entity.

Questions? Please send them to tcfabry@yahoo.com.  Tom and I will make every effort to answer your questions.

For Liberty – as our Founders intended,

JoAnn Fleming 

May 2024

 

Honorable Members of the Smith County Commissioners Court:

According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics,1 the Consumer Price Index has increased 18.4% since January 2021, putting extreme stress on family budgets.   At the same time, the FY2024 tax burden for all local taxing entities in Smith County has now reached over $1,000,000,000 ($1 Billion).  The FY2025 budget process in which you are now engaging must be viewed in context of these realities.

Smith County Departments and elected officials have now submitted their FY2025 budget requests, providing you a first look at budget implications.  It is imperative that the Smith County Commissioners Court takes all possible common-sense measures to assure taxpayers that the proposed budgets from each department head and elected official reflect the financial realities of its citizens.  The resulting aggregate county budget and tax rate should first prioritize Smith County families and business-owners hit from every side by inflation.

Grassroots America therefore strongly recommends the incorporation of the following actions to define the county budget process. Our objective is to help you provide maximum transparency to taxpayers:

1. Base Line Budget. Typically, the budget process starts with prior year ending values as the baseline for subsequent year projections.  However, the County has benefited from a number of one-time revenue bonanzas that inflate historical results.  Among these non-recurring revenues are Covid-19 subsidies, ARPA funds, and other Federal and State Grants.  The base-line revenue – and the expense line items funded by those one-time revenues – should be factored out, leaving an accurate operational baseline.  These baselines should be published with all FY2025 projections compared to them.

2. Reserve Funds. Unencumbered reserve funds should be featured prominently and compared to generally accepted standards.  Cash reserves greater than those required by the Court’s adopted written policy reflect over-taxation by Smith County government and should be returned to the taxpayers by a reduction in the tax levy.

3. Taxpayer Funded Lobbying. Budgets should be scrutinized for any lobbying activity funded by taxpayers and zeroed out.  Membership dues in associations that employ or contract with lobbyists should be reduced proportionally.  Expenses for elected officials to represent the county at state or other approved functions should be reviewed and maintained only if consistent with the county’s mission.

4. No New Revenue Tax Rate. The NNR tax rate should be the maximum allowable tax rate, period.  Taxpayers should not be taxed on “paper increases” in their existing home values.  Moreover, according to the 2024 SCAD (Smith County Appraisal District) Preliminary Report, new construction will increase taxable valuation by more than $815 million, generating an increase of $2.8 million in property tax revenues over 2023.

5. Zero Based Budget. One of the most effective ways of managing the growth of government spending is through zero-based budgeting. This approach to public finance is based on the idea that no costs or activities should be automatically carried over from one budget to the next.  Instead, every departmental and office budget should be built from the ground up, requiring every single expense to be justified. When used, zero-based budgeting will build taxpayer confidence in Smith County’s financial integrity and help produce the highest quality services delivered at the very best price.

For FY2025, your strategic plan should begin this practice with a finite number of departments engaging in this disciplined budget review, starting with all departments under the direct administrative authority of the Smith County Commissioners Court. Zero-based budgets should match “money with mission,” aligning each department’s functions to its core mission and statutory requirements.  From there, costs and volumes are mapped to line up with those core functions. Results of this process should be benchmarked against peer groups.

6. Plan Operational Peak Performance and Cost Containment. Begin developing a 2025 long-range plan and timeline to improve operational performance while removing operational waste and process variations. To begin, deploy Lean Six Sigma Management training conducted by County Judge Neal Franklin (experienced in same); research the historical record of Texas Association of Counties (TAC) “Best Practices Awards” and National Association of Counties (NACo) “Cost Saving Solutions.”

Respectfully,

 

 

 

Tom Fabry

Authorized Spokesman, Board Member, Local Government Watchdog Chairman

1. https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0000SA0L1E?output_view=pct_12mths